Pope Francis tells gay man: “God made you like that and loves you like that”

Photo above shows Juan Carlos Cruz, a survivor of sexual abuse and an openly gay man. Cruz claimed that Pope Francis told him that “God made you like this.”

A victim of clerical sexual abuse has said that Pope Francis told him that God made him gay and that his homosexual orientation “does not matter.”

Juan Carlos Cruz, a survivor of sexual abuse from the hands of Chilean clergy, spent three days with Pope Francis at the Vatican in April, in which he also discussed his homosexual orientation with he Pope. Describing his encounter with the Pope to CNN last May 21, Cruz said the Pope told him: “You know Juan Carlos…God made you like this. God loves you like this. The Pope loves you like this and you should love yourself and not worry about what people say.”


The Pope’s words would amount to a significant departure from the teaching of the Roman Catholic Church, which considers homosexuality “objectively disordered” and contrary to God’s law. Vatican spokesman Greg Burke told CNN: “We do not normally comment on the Pope’s private conversations.”

We recall here the words of the late Pope St. John Paul II, who once said:

“When homosexual unions have been legally recognised or have been given the legal statutes and rights belonging to marriage, clear and emphatic opposition is a duty.”

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Fernando Karadima, the man who abused Cruz, was found guilty of abuse by the Vatican in 2011. Last May 18, all the bishops in Chile offered their resignation to Pope Francis after a three-day emergency summit at the Vatican to discuss Chile’s sex-abuse scandal.

In total, 31 active bishops and three retired bishops announced in a statement that they had offered to resign over the scandal and place the issue “in the hands of the Holy Father so that he might freely decide for each one of us.”

Greg Burke, the Vatican’s chief spokesman, did not respond to questions about whether Cruz’s statement accurately reflected his conversation with the pope.

It is not the first time it has been suggested Francis has an open and tolerant attitude toward homosexuality, despite the Catholic church’s teaching that gay sex – and all sex outside of heterosexual marriage – is a sin. In July 2013, in response to a reporter’s question about the existence of an alleged “gay lobby” within the Vatican, Francis said: “Who am I to judge?”∎

by Delia Gallagher and Hada Messia, CNN


  1. Have we forgotten Sodom and gamorah, don’t know if I spelled it right, and man shall not lay down with man. I believe pope John Paul, it is a disorder. Francis and our modern Church has been invaded by evil.

  2. want to take issue with the chap who currently runs ‘The Fatima Center’, and I thought I would swap some view with you as a means of clarifying my statements. You see the Fatima Center does not appear to follow up the ‘pointers’ to the Third Secret. It skirts round the subject. It even takes part of the second secret, and applies it to the Third: viz the warning that ‘entire nations will be annihilated’. The Fatima Center trots that out time and again, no doubt as a means of winding folk up, when since it comes within the Second Secret, that dealt with the emergence of Russia, and so in that context, it has indeed been fulfilled, namely in the Soviet domination of the Eastern European nations.

    But the other thing is that ‘FC’ actually subscribes to that official account of the Third Secret by referring to ‘the Bishop in white being shot by bullets and arrows’ according to the vision. Now there is nothing in the Faith that obliges us to believe in baloney, whether generated by a pope or otherwise. If one considers the message that Our Lady revealed on 13.7.17 – she revealed that wars are God’s punishment for sin and that ‘unless man ceased offending God, a second and worse war would follow’.

    Her prediction was fulfilled, and this leads one to the point ‘Has man now ceased offending God? – indeed one can posit that since WW2, man has devised greater and greater ways of offending Him, the multi-million abortion industry to take an example. And since man has ‘gone from bad to worse’ then we would anticipate that what is revealed in the 3rd Secret is the culmination of all God’s punishments – do you follow me so far? Then that being so, what the Vatican ‘version’ implies, is that the greatest of all punishments is for someone to try and kill the Pope – and fail. Because that’s what happened.

    I lament the fact I have written a book containing what are well thought out points – such as linking the start of events leading to ‘the Secret’ to Our Lady’s statement ‘the moment has come’ in 1929 – and it is stagnating on the Amazon shelves

    Part 2

    The Vatican claims its account of the Third Secret – you know Pope John Paul ‘the Undead’ – shows that the Secret is all fulfilled. But when the then Cardinal Ratzinger revealed aspects of the Third Secret in an interview in ‘Jesus’ in November 1984, he said it correlated with the Scriptures on the last days – which corroborates what Sr Lucia once said namely ‘It’s in the Gospels and Apocalypse Chs 8-13.’ What we need to do is to examine what Our Lady revealed on 13.7.17 and see if what leads on to the Third Secret and its conclusion can shed light on the meaning of the Secret. What Our Lady offered is a ‘conditional miracle’. Unless the Pope et al consecrated Russia, it would attack the Church , in events leading to the Third Secret, after which come the consecration etc, and a period of peace being given.

    The implication is that in the Third Secret comes the end-point of the attacks by Russia, on the Church. So for the ‘Vatican account’ to delete this important aspect, is to seriously mislead God’s people. The other point is that for Russia’s attack to be overcome by a spiritual means – the consecration, implies that its attack is essentially spiritual. How can Russia mount such an attack? In my booklet I reveal that in the time since 1929, Russia has been developing a means whereby it can attack the Catholic Church. First of all it subjugates the ROC and deploys it as an instrument of propaganda within its borders and then following its success in running the war, the ROC joins the World Council of Churches, which becomes a ‘secondary front’ and so, after the Vatican Council, Russia can mount a spiritual attack. In other words, through our Church’s infatuation with ecumenism, an attack can become imminent.


    I chose you because I respect your intelligence. I do not think God revealed the events of the last days in order to scare the boots off us, but to advance the salvation of our souls. Let me ken whit you think.

    No ‘Boot Hill’ in the Scriptures. as implied by that Vatican vision of a Bishop in white being killed with bullets .. Draw – your Grace, or I’ll fill you fulla lead.

    Part 3

    One of the clearest ‘pointers’ to the Third Secret is when Sr Lucia’s revealed ‘It’s in the Gospels and the Apocalypse (and she indicated Chapters 8 to 13 of the latter) – read them’. Now the Apocalypse deals with events at the end of time, with Chapter 13 revealing how the ‘second beast’ will set up a statue and impose worship on it, on pain of death. Catholic exegesis reveals this as the Antichrist. But how does this ‘correlate’ with ‘the Gospels’ that other source that Lucia claimed as relevant? To have indicated the Apocalypse means she was referring to the Gospels on the last days, the most likely text being Our Lord’s ‘Discourse on the Last Days’ in eg St Matthew’s Gospel – Chapter 24. When the disciples ask Him for a ‘sign’ of the last days and that His return is imminent, He refers to the ‘setting up of the abomination of desolation in the Holy place, as the prophet Daniel had foretold’. If we break this down we find that ‘an abomination’ in Jewish tradition, referred to an idol, and so to set up an idol in order to ‘desolate’ the people, implies just the same as we have found in the previous end-time prophecy, the implication being that what is found in the Third Secret – concerns the attack by Antichrist.

    And this fits in with what Cardinal Ratzinger stated about the Third Secret namely that it concerns ‘dangers to the faith and life of Christians and thus of the world’… ‘the last days’.. and that ‘what is contained in this Third Secret corresponds with what is revealed in the Scriptural prophecies..’ But as, there is only one such danger revealed there, namely that posed by the coming of Antichrist, surely we are on firm footing on continuing our investigation into what is revealed by Scripture – about him.

    You see what the Third Secret reveals logically covers more that just ‘the coming of Antichrist’ – and to find out more we need to uncover the hidden meaning of those ‘texts’ dealing with his coming. And no doubt the best way to do this is to quote from what I have already written. The main such text, as given above, is where Our Lord foretells the setting up of ‘the abomination of desolation of which the prophet Daniel spoke in the Holy place’ to which the words are added ‘let the reader understand’ (Matt 24:15). But the fact we are urged to ‘understand’ this text, implies a hidden meaning, and so now we turn to the prophecy to Our Lord referred – which is in Chapter 9 of Daniel: vv 23-27. This follows on from the prophecy in Daniel 7 of an empire which will attack the Church at the end of time. Its attack is led by ‘one who makes war on the saints and proves the stronger’ but is defeated by the ‘son of man’ (13-21). Chapter 9 reveals that the aggressor, Antichrist, will launch this attack by entering ‘the sanctuary, removing ‘the sacrifice’ and setting up ‘the abomination of desolation’. Clearly this cannot refer to an attack on the Jewish Temple as it was destroyed in AD 70. Surely the fact that Our Lord was referring to the last days – implies an attack not on that Temple – but on what it foreshadowed, namely the sanctuary of the Catholic Church? And what is the sacrifice offered there? Surely it is the Sacrifice of the Mass? So is it the target of Antichrist’s attack? Note the name of where the ‘abomination’ will be set up: ‘the Holy place’. This name is derived from the instruction given to Moses to set forth twelve loaves of bread in ‘a holy place’ of the Temple: ‘You are to bake twelve loaves (and) set them in two rows of six on the pure table that stands before the Lord… This will be the food offered as a memorial, a burnt offering for the Lord. Continually every sabbath they shall be set before the Lord. The sons of Israel shall provide them by unending covenant. They will belong to Aaron and his sons, who shall eat them in a holy place, for they are a most holy portion for him of the Lord’s burnt offerings. This is a perpetual law.’ (Leviticus 24: 5-9; Heb 9:2). At the Last Supper, Christ used bread in instituting the Sacrifice of the Mass, thus fulfilling all that the earlier rite foreshadowed, as Origen confirmed (P.G. XII col 547). This implies that the idol will be set up on the new Holy place, namely the altar of the Church, where Christ is present under the forms of bread and wine. All of which implies that the Mass is the target of attack. But – a key question – how could someone gain access to the sanctuary in order to set up an idol there?

    For answer we turn to St Paul’s account of Antichrist’s attack in his second Letter to the Thessalonians. This was prompted by rumours that Christ’s return was imminent. But St Paul wrote that ‘it cannot happen until an apostasy has taken place, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or is worshipped, so that he sits in the sanctuary, showing himself as if he were God. Surely you remember me telling you about these things when I was with you? And you know what is still holding him back from appearing before the appointed time. The mystery of iniquity is at work already, only the one who restrains it has first to be removed until the wicked one appears openly.’(2 Thess 2: 1-7). Note that ‘this rebel’ will ‘exalt himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped so that he sits in the sanctuary and reveals himself as if he were God’ (emphasised – IC). St Paul states he will ‘remove the one who restrains iniquity’’ – but how does he achieve this? Significantly we read that he ‘opposes and exalts himself over everything that is called God or that is worshipped so that he sits in the sanctuary and reveals himself as if he were God’. As

    the ‘action’ takes place in the sanctuary, this implies that he ‘exalts himself’ over what is worshipped there. But what is ‘the sanctuary’? In the Christian dispensation it is the place where Catholic priests celebrate Mass. And in the Mass, Christ becomes present and is worshipped. Which implies that what the rebel ‘opposes’ is the Eucharist. St Paul adds that ‘the mystery of iniquity…is being withheld by he who must be removed before the rebel can appear openly’. Surely this refers to Christ who through His action in the Mass, currently holds Satan bound, and thus implies that this ‘rebel’, later identifies as Antichrist: will effectively remove Him? St Paul reveals that following this intervention, Satan will be able to work ‘miracles’ (v. 9) in an attempt to deceive people. Clearly it would be impossible for anyone to make such an attack without the collusion of the leaders of the Church. The ‘sanctuary’ is their domain and under their protection, and so such a person could not enter without their permission. Note that St Paul says the rebel ‘sits in the sanctuary’ which implies that he takes his place there as if by right. This is consonant with the idea of him being invited to take part in a Mass, and that implies the complicity of a section of the Church’s Bishops in extending an invitation. The text implies that he does lack valid orders because the effect of his actions is to remove Christ from the Church’s altar. If he were truly a Catholic priest, he would not remove Him but make Him present.

    In summary then, these two end-time texts confirm the hypothesis that the Mass is the target of the coming attack, and that it will be undermined by someone lacking valid orders, whose intervention effectively displaces Christ from the altar and sets up an idol as the focus of worship, thereby abolishing the Mass and allowing Satan to work ‘miracles’ in order to deceive all into following Antichrist. According to the Gospels this is accompanied by the persecution of the Church throughout the world (Matt 24:9).

    We now come to the question – what is the purpose of this being revealed to us? Surely we live in troubled times in the Church. Take Pope Francis’s proposals in ‘Amoris Laetitia’, namely that those ‘in second marriages’ be allowed to receive Communion. Clearly such a sacrilege would come through the Church’s obsession with false ecumenism – and would come as a consequence of that process by which Russia uses ‘ecumenism’ ‘to undermine the Church (as described in Chapter 2 of my booklet).

    What I therefore suggest, is that what we are seeing in the very leadership of the Church – a Pope significantly who rejects Our Lady’s warnings – is the first beginnings of what Scripture foretells for the arrival of Antichrist, namely an event in which someone will set up an idol on the Church’s one altar.

    Scripture reveals he will then use ‘false miracles’ in order to try and mislead us from faith in Christ. And surely the benefit of knowing what his strategy is, is that we will be better able to reject his imposture. So the whole point of the relevant texts, is that we do not apostatise, but hold firm in the faith. The Third Secret is a providential means – a way of providing ‘advance intelligence’ so that when it comes, those who profess faith in Christ will be ready to give up life itself, for the benefit and reward of eternal live.

    See also ‘The Vatican Third Secret Hoax Exposed, and the Truth Revealed’ (Amazon Books)

    Ps the above suggests why the Vatican has concealed the Third Secret. Who has been responsible for events that predispose a subversion? Who has refused to Consecrate Russia to the Immaculate Heart..

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